CF: And I’m back as well. With last week’s Misery Porn episode, I felt there wasn’t anything I could add other than, “Make it stop!” But this one–oh, yeah: it needs some double snarking.
Rick Still Doesn’t Get It
So, I know Rick (Andrew Lincoln) has just lost a son and all, but, when he stops to question Michonne (Danai Gurira) about what Carl (Chandler Riggs) was talking about as he was dying, perhaps he should just read Carl’s letter.
Like Michonne suggests.
But, on no. Instead, Rick reads the letter Carl wrote for Negan (Jeffrey Dean Morgan). And that, my friends, is how the fight started.
CF: Seriously, Rick is written like a complete idiot dude hell-bent on one thing and that’s burning shit to the ground to get his way. It’s getting harder and harder to see Rick as the “good guy” anymore.
RT: I totally agree with this. But, you know my thoughts on how Rick is just one of the bad guys, the only difference is we have seen where he came from and are able to empathise as a result. Although, I find I cannot not empathise as much for him now…
Of course, when Rick contacts Negan on the walkie-talkie, it starts out promising. Negan is actually visibly shaken and upset about Carl’s death. I kind of feel sorry for Negan at this point because we all know he really liked Carl. And then, Rick and Negan start talking. At first it is okay, Negan is sorry, Rick says Carl wrote Negan a letter about how they should all just grow tomatoes and get along.
But then Rick says something stupid like “I’m honouring my dead son by going ahead and killing you anyway.”
Negan goes into full bullshit mode and starts emotionally manipulating Rick and calling him a bad father.
So, I guess that’s how we get another six episodes of the All Out War…
CF: The last scene with Negan and Rick was probably the best of the night, and props to Jeffery Dean Morgan for continuing to keep Negan interesting as hell. The way JDM played the scene, you saw he really was upset to learn that Carl had died because he did have plans for Carl, he did believe he was the future. You could say that if Rick had gone to the trouble to have this conversation in person he would have seen this, but Rick’s stuck in “Fuck Shit Up” Mode and he can’t do anything else. If Negan weren’t such an asshole most of the time, I’m figuring a large part of The Three Settlements (Alexandra, Hilltop, and The Kingdom) would have went over to the Saviors by now.
RT: I loved this scene so much. I also think, if Rick were thinking straight, he could have negotiated the shit out of it. However, as you say, “Fuck Shit Up” mode.
Simon Is Catching The Rick Virus
Since Rick is not allowing Negan to “save” everyone, Simon (Steven Ogg) gets on the bandwagon and takes a leaf out of Rick’s book by not listening to a word Negan says.
So, when Negan tells Simon to get the Junkies under control, Simon nods his head and does whatever the fuck he wants anyway.
And, this means taking all the Junkies guns and then shooting the lot of them. Except for Jadis (Pollyanna McIntosh). No, she gets to sit on her junk pile and think about how she should have been using complete sentences form the start.
CF: Steven Ogg was brilliant tonight. He’s tired of Negan’s bullshit, he does make a good point about cutting losses and moving on, and when it came time to swallow shit from Jadis, he was like “Fuck this, they’re all going down.” And then he gets back to The Sanctuary and realizes, “You know, I may catch a bat in the head if Negan finds out about this shit.” Negan’s right: what he’s doing is hard and killing to get rid of your problem is easy, but at this point Steven wants easy ’cause fuck it, he’s ready to kick back and stop getting shot at.
RT: I am LOVING Simon’s story arc right now. Although, considering he is becoming more complex, I really expected him to be the special guest on Talking Dead because Negan had killed him.
CF: Yeah, “interesting” on The Walking Dead usually means “died horrifically”. I can see that happening to Simon before long.
Rick And Jadis Have A Little Chat
And, by chat, I mean Rick tells Jadis to fuck off when she asks if she can join their group.
Um, Rick, read the fucking letter from your son already! Plus, didn’t you turn up there just so you can get the group on your side? I kinda wish Michonne would knock some sense into Rick again.
CF: Seriously, Michonne was sleepwalking through this episode while Rick played the grieving father/enormous dick. How many times has Rick just left something because he was in a pissy mood and it came back to bite him on the ass? More than a few times, that’s how many.
Certified A-Grade Walker Meat
Since Jadis has been left behind, she has to work out her own way through her undead Junkies. It turns out she has a usable industrial sized mincer on her hands and marches the lot into it. It’s a shame Terminus aren’t around, they could have done with some burger meat…
CF: After Talking Dead ran the scene of the burger meat piling up they put up a place card saying, “Chili, anyone?” Fuck you guys, that was bad. 🙂 What Jadis did was stone fucking cold and you know she isn’t forgetting what happened here any time soon.
Just On That Helipad
Now, for those of you who wondered what the deal was with Simon asking Jadis about the helipad and solar panels just before he killed all of Jadis’ people, Cassidy and I have a couple of theories about it 😉
Firstly, Jadis’ group could be scientists and their lab is so top secret that they disguised it as a junk yard before the zombie apocalypse happened. Which means we could find out more about the walker virus now.
Secondly, perhaps Jadis is sitting on some sort of hidden Government system, once again, hidden by the junk yard. After all, how did she have power to get that grinder to work? Plus, with Simon asking about the helipad and viewers seeing an actual helicopter flying overhead last season when Rick was on his way to visit the Junkies, it seems likely this group are more than they say they are. Now, if they are a government department. Could this be a segue into the New World Order part of the comic books? Only by tuning into The Walking Dead will reveal the answers!
CF: Okay, I’m gonna get geeky here ’cause I thought about this a bit more last night and did a bit of research on this upon waking. Now, I’m gonna say AMC isn’t thinking along the same lines as me, but that’s because you and I, we like to think this shit out, while Gimple just tells his writers, “Hey, wouldn’t Rick finding a superlab be cool? Make it happen.” Fuck logic: they follow The Gimple. We don’t.
When Simon dropped the line about the helipad and the solar panels, no way in hell was that an accident, it was fucking foreshadowing. So is there a super-secret base in the area and the Junkyard Kids were really scientist working there? Could be. And where could you put this? Well…
We know D.C. is across the river from Alexandria and the Pentagon and CIA are to the north, but what’s to the south of this area. Well, Fort Belvoir, an Army base that actually employees more people than the Pentagon. Here it is, 9 mi/15 km down US 1 from the middle of the city of Alexandria:
What goes on at Fort Belvoir? Surprisingly a whole hell of a lot. It’s the home of the Defense Technical Information Center, the United States Army Intelligence and Security Command, the United States Army Military Intelligence Readiness Command, the Defense Threat Reduction Agency, and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency. In short, it’s pretty much the center of Military Intelligence, some of it for just the Army, but a lot of it for the nation as a whole. And one of the main group here is Defense Threat Reduction Agency, which is responsible for countering weapons of mass destruction, which is anything chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear, and even high explosives. In short, once the zombie apocalypse broke out, DTRA would have kicked it into high gear to figure out how to counter the threat.
And it has an annex to the north called (not surprisingly) Fort Belvoir North. It’s the home of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, which handles collecting, analyzing, and distributing geospatial intelligence in support of national security. It’s also tasked with providing assistance during natural and man-made disasters, which means this place would have been working overtime as well during the zombie apocalypse.
Here’s a picture of Fort Belvoir North. I want you to take a close look at something:
See that empty space at center-right? Wouldn’t that make a great place for a hidden lab placed partially underground? And you could cover it up with, oh, I don’t know, maybe a junk yard? There’s even plenty of room for a helipad and solar panels, right?
Again, I’m not saying this is what AMC is doing because they aren’t down into the world building like me. But, if I was gonna bring a super-secret lab into this mix, here is where I’d put the damn thing. And once again this site is 9 mi/15 km from the center of the city of Alexandria, so it works for the show.
Personally, I think TWD will skip the whole Whisperers War and head directly to the New World Order story line once All Out War concludes. And when you have the center of it in your backyard, it means you don’t need to split up the gang–as they have done in the comic–and send half of them off in the direction of Cleveland to discover the U.S. has been trying for years to get back on to its feet.
RT: I fucking LOVE you Cassidy! This research is awesome! And I totally hope Gimple uses this information.
CF: If Gimple does, I better get a check. Or at least a credit. Again, AMC doesn’t think like us: we love getting down into the dirt and figuring this shit out.
Aaron (Ross Marquand) and Enid (Katelyn Nacon) nearly get killed but Cyndie (Sydney Park) decides they can go. Except Aaron takes his recruitment job seriously and sends Enid on her way while he goes back to the place where there are only women who haven’t seen a man in God only knows how long…
CF: Last night on Talking Dead Katelyn Nacon mentioned how they film Oceanside on the grounds of the studio and how AMC brought in lots of dead fish that stunk up the place pretty bad. I thought I’d pop up a picture of what Raleigh Studios–where The Walking Dead films–and show you what it looks like today.
All the prison sets are gone, but right where the entrance used to sit is The Junkyard, so we know Rick doesn’t have to go far to go see his favorite people. Hilltop is in the upper right hand corner, and Oceanside– Well, I don’t see it, but my guess is it’s probably right in the area currently labeled Gabriel’s Church, because we know it sits in the middle of the woods and there are a lot of woods there. Are they gonna build a superlab somewhere? Probably inside one of the studio buildings, because that would make the most sense.
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You can view the trailer for Episode 11 (titled “Dead or Alive Or”) of The Walking Dead below.
The Walking Dead returns to AMC with Episode 11 of Season 8 on Sunday, March 11, at 9 p.m. EST.
[Featured image via Gene Page/AMC]